These 5 Cars May be Cheaper to Own than a New Toyota Camry and 100x the Fun

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01/11/2017 at 20:19 • Filed to: None

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Owning a car is expensive. Depreciation, maintenance, fuel, and insurance add up quickly especially - it seems - on cars that are the most fun to drive.

The good news is that depreciation, typically the largest expense in owning a car, is significantly less in several exciting cars because the enthusiast community builds such strong demand. We’ve assembled five great cars that should see much less depreciation and maintenance over the next few years. Get them while you can!

$50k+ Market: The 997.1 Porsche 911

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997.1 GT3 Photo credit: Silver Arrow

In 1999, Porsche switched their flagship 911 car from an air-cooled rear engine setup to a rear engine water-cooled setup for the new 996 911. Air-cooled 911 fans were quite upset as Porsche had kept the air cooled legacy since the first 911. Upon the 996’s release they were quickly converted thanks to the fantastic driving dynamics of the new 996. Seven years later, the 997 improved on many of the driving dynamics of the 996 and was highly acclaimed by publications of the time.

The 997 911 came in four models: the base Carrera, the Carrera S, the Turbo, and the GT3. All four models could be had with a manual or a PDK transmission. The “entry-level” Carerra had a 325hp naturally aspirated flat six engine, and included little in standard options. The Carrera S came with a 355 hp 3.8L engine larger brakes, lowered suspension with active suspension management, xenon headlights and a sports steering wheel. The Turbo came with a turbocharged 3.8L engine good for 473hp and the track-centered GT3, with a highly tuned, naturally aspirated 3.8L engine was labeled as the best handling car in America by Motor Trend in 2006.

997 Known Issues and Model Recommendations

The 996 did have a major - but rare - failure point in the IMS bearing. When it gave out, it caused catastrophic engine damage. The 997 911 was released and supposedly continued on with this flawed IMS bearing but was corrected in 2009+ years. This flaw did not affect the turbocharged engine, which had a different bearing design.

Many prudent owners changed out their bearings on affected cars, and the 997 remains one of the most balanced and enthusiast-centered platforms to this day The 911 doesn’t seem to depreciate after year three, with a reported depreciation of 0.1% over 2016 by CarGurus. Porsche also has a strong reliability track record, outside of the IMS bearing. Because of these traits, we highly recommend the 997 911 as the perfect enthusiast centered, financially responsible car.

$30k+ Market: E9X BMW M3

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2010 e90 M3

Diehard BMW fans were upset when the e9X (e90 for the sedan, e92 for the coupe, e93 for the convertible) M3 was announced. Traditionally, M3s of the past had naturally aspirated straight six engines.

The e9X was launched with a high revving V8 engine with 414hp and 295ft-lbs, considered blasphemous. Early models of the M3 were matted to either a clumsy DCT six speed transmission or a manual six speed. The coupe had an optional carbon fiber roof which saved an additional 40lbs... and looked really awesome.

Reviews were largely positive on the M3 thanks to the M3’s perfectly tuned chassis and engine that loved to play. Diehard fans quickly came around. Multiple comparisons across many magazines often had the e9x M3 in first place, ahead of the C63 AMG, and the Lexus IS F.

2009 models received upgraded iDrive. 2011+ models had the option to add a competition package which lowered the car by 10mm, added 19in rims, and remapped dampening and stability controls, improved Bluetooth connectivity, and included an ‘M’ button which allowed driver preferences for a host of steering, suspension and other options.

M3 Known Issues And Model Recommendations

Being a BMW, the e9X M3 had a few engine-related issues that buyers need to be alert toward. The rod bearings in all model years are a failure point. When these go out, it typically means you need to replace your engine. Oil analysis will tell you if the bearings are a problem, but it may be prudent to just replace the bearings preventatively. Depending on your area, the bearing replacement may run up to $2,000. The throttle actuators can go out on these cars, causing a ~$1,000 - $2,000 issue though in the state of California these can be replaced under the 7 year emission warranty.

Given the two potentially major engine issues listed above, a pre-purchase inspection and historical maintenance records are your best friends.

The e9X M3s are the last of the naturally aspirated cars, and while BMW did make many of them, there are fewer that are pristinely cared for. A 2011 with the competition package is the pick. 2011+ has 4+ years of depreciation, features worthwhile upgrades and is hitting the end of the steep depreciation curve.

The Trendsetter: B8 RS5

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B8 RS5
Photo credit: Audizine

Toward the late 2000s, the RS4 (Race Sport) was released to go head to head with the early e92 M3. In most comparisons it won due to its impressive naturally aspirated V8 engine, well tuned chassis, and excellent manual transmission. Sadly, the RS4 was put out of production in 2010.

Noticing a gap in its US line-up, Audi USA made the decision to import its B8 RS5 model to compete in the higher end sport sedan market. Complete with upgraded suspension, a naturally aspirated 444hp and 317lb-ft engine with a 8300rpm redline, larger intakes, and the stylish lines from the A5, the RS5 was considered a worthy competitor in the market.

The RS5 is certainly more of a ‘grand tourer’ than a track car. It weighs just over 4000lbs and, despite its performance-oriented suspension, is a bit to manage over many curves. The only available transmission is a seven speed dual clutch automatic.

The RS5 was imported from 2013 to 2015. The 2015 added optional red brake calipers, matte-black 20 inch wheels, and blind-spot warning on the technology package. All model years suffer from premature brake and rotor wear due to inefficient brake cooling. It’s recommended that you buy either the carbon ceramic equipped brakes or upgrade to Brembo GT rotors and pads.

RS5 Known Issues And Model Recommendations

Only a total of ~5,000 RS5 coupes were imported over the three years and the 2013/2014 years have hit their initial depreciation. Due to the rarity and uniqueness of the RS5, we expect depreciation to be light over the next several years. Just make sure to change out the brakes to save money.

The Sleeper: Lexus IS F

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Lexus IS F

When the IS F was first released in 2008, the car was meant to be an M3 killer. Armed with a 414hp and 327 ft-lb V8 engine, a sport-tuned suspension, and a luxurious interior, the IS F had a 0-60 time of 4.6s. But the 2008-2010 vehicle had too much body roll in curves and was 300lbs too heavy to be a competitor on the track.

The 2011+ model corrected all of these problems by retuning or changing out nearly every part of the suspension and adding in a limited slip differential. The interior was also received minor improvements to better match the LFA and features a sport button now on the steering wheel. Reviews pegged the 2011+ IS F as the car to defeat the M3, but few comparison articles made it to press to prove it.

IS F Known Issues And Model Recommendations

Needless to say, the 2011+ model is the IS F to buy. The suspension changes are noticeably better and the Lexus fit and finish really makes a difference in the interior. Reliability is also substantially better than the C63 AMG and the M3, with the water pump being the major service item before 100k miles.

The IS F was last produced in 2013, and had a lower production quota compared to the M3. Depreciation on these models has slowed substantially and we anticipate future depreciation on these vehicles to be low.

The “Budget” Ride: 2014 MKVII GTI

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MKVII GTI

The Volkswagen GTI has been an enthusiast staple since it was first released in the 70’s. Always fun to drive, with plenty of power, it has evolved into a practical car with an excellent engine sitting on a great chassis. Most car enthusiasts would say the GTI is the car to get under $30k.

New for 2014, the MKVII GTI has an upgraded 2.0L turbocharged engine with 210hp. The sport package adds another 10hp and further refines the suspension. The GTI also has a six speed manual option, in addition to the six speed dual clutch automatic. The GTI is incredibly fun on the backroads and has ample space for child seats or a family of four. The rear seats also fold down to enable nearly double the truck capacity, ensuring you can haul practically anything.

GTI Known Issues And Model Recommendations

Though VW builds the GTI in Mexico, a plant known for problematic cars, reliability has largely been good. The biggest problem area is the water pump, which fails in just over 4% of cars.

Opt for the 2014 GTI, which has two years of depreciation, and saw only a ~5% dip in car value over the last year. Due to the enthusiast demand for the car, the GTI holds value incredibly well.

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DISCUSSION (10)


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > Adrian
01/11/2017 at 20:26

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The E9X M3 is not cheap to own.


Kinja'd!!! Adrian > E90M3
01/11/2017 at 20:46

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Hopefully I made it clear of the major issues in the post, while also calling out good maintenance records and a PPI are a must. Let me know if I missed anything.


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > Adrian
01/11/2017 at 20:50

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Even so, I bought mine with 15k on it in 2014, both of my throttle position actuators went out. They also get 13-15 mpg around town, and eat expensive tires. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fantastic and would buy one again in a heartbeat, but if you’re on a Camry budget, it’s too expensive.


Kinja'd!!! Adrian > E90M3
01/11/2017 at 21:11

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Fuel economy is a fair point. Throttle actuators are called out above.

From a depreciation standpoint, a 2016 Toyota Camry stands to lose $6k in the first year of ownership. That’s a lot of things to go wrong in the M3 to make up for it.


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > Adrian
01/11/2017 at 21:25

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You did mention them, but even with getting a low mileage one with excellent service history is no guarantee.


Kinja'd!!! Adrian > E90M3
01/11/2017 at 21:31

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Very valid point. Thank you.


Kinja'd!!! promoted by the color red > Adrian
01/11/2017 at 23:09

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Or I could just buy a Miata and have oodles of top-down fun.

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There is no way that the E90 or a 911 is “cheaper” to own than a Camry. I’ve beat the hell out of my Camry over 90,000 miles and not only is the engine in good shape, no service has cost more than $100, and the Camry also gets 25-30 mpg. Boring, but it’s affordable.

The only cars comparable are the GTI & Lexus. Maybe the Audi up to a certain point.


Kinja'd!!! VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > Adrian
01/12/2017 at 00:38

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By the way, IS-F got the LSD in 2010. The suspension is as you say. Because of this 2008 and 2009s are comparatively cheap to the 2010 and the 2010 relatively cheap to the 2011s as a result.


Kinja'd!!! Adrian > promoted by the color red
01/12/2017 at 02:13

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Ha, totally agree. I should’ve included the Miata, though in another version of this in infographic form, I used the Honda S2000.

If you include depreciation, the argument is incredibly easy to make that a 911 is cheaper to own than a brand new Camry. The Camry will lose ~$6k in the first year of ownership.

Even with the increased fuel economy and zero maintenance issues in the Camry, and one or two services in the Porsche, you’ll still come out ahead in a well-maintained 997+ 911. The main reason is that a good 911 won’t lose much value over a short time period such as a year.


Kinja'd!!! Adrian > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
01/12/2017 at 02:14

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Excellent points. I need to add the LSD in the 2010 into the write-up. Thank you for the pointers.